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	<title>Comments on: Buzz: Taoyuen Nights Brings Daylight to Taiwan&#8217;s Murky Economy</title>
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		<title>By: InvestorBlogger</title>
		<link>http://www.obblogatory.com/buzz-taoyuen-nights-brings-daylight-to-taiwans-murky-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-11037</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, six months have now passed. and property prices have weakened in our area. Headline rates are off about 10% since the peak last summer (based on my estimates) but in our area at least, we&#039;re still waiting for the predicted 50% cut price sale. I think we&#039;ll have to hold our breathe for quite some time. It ain&#039;t going to happen.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, six months have now passed. and property prices have weakened in our area. Headline rates are off about 10% since the peak last summer (based on my estimates) but in our area at least, we&#039;re still waiting for the predicted 50% cut price sale. I think we&#039;ll have to hold our breathe for quite some time. It ain&#039;t going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Mu-Taoyuan-Nights</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mu-Taoyuan-Nights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello again, 
 
I don&#039;t allow comments on my blog, for a variety of reasons including spam. I prefer to respond &#039;blog to blog&#039; as much as possible.  
 
I&#039;m not a pessimist. I&#039;m an optimist! I&#039;m looking forward to a world (including Taiwan) where people don&#039;t obsess about their worth in terms of how a pile of bricks is valued; where a family can choose to have an extra room AND have a child; where people don&#039;t need to trade their entire working life to own a small, 2-bedroom apartment in nowhere-ville.  
 
In fact, dropping prices is great even for owners! It means you will be able to trade up to an even nicer house, if you like, more cheaply. The world would be a much nicer place if house prices were considerably lower. The only people that gain from high house prices are landowners, housebuilders, very old people (who downsize), banks, estate agents and the government (through taxation). Most people don&#039;t fall into one of these categories.  
 
Besides, housing is not a measure of wealth. A country&#039;s wealth comes from it&#039;s productive ability in terms of tools, art, ideas, ... housing is just a (poorly) assembled collection of mud and dead trees. People would hardly go screaming with joy around the streets if food prices doubled, or if water charges tripled, or electricity bills quadrupled. So why should anyone be cheerful when some other basic, needed commodity goes up? It&#039;s bad news for everyone except those who make that commodity or benefit from its trade!  
 
For me, the pessimists are those who think that high house prices are good, when really they tie up the capital of a society in a completely unproductive way, and transfer wealth from young to old in an entirely unfair and disproportionate way.  
 
Anyway, my view on what will happen to housing is not coloured by what I would *like* to happen to housing or what I think is best for society. Rather, it&#039;s just based on what history shows us, and the &#039;laws of finance&#039;, as far as they seem to exist.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again, </p>
<p>I don&#039;t allow comments on my blog, for a variety of reasons including spam. I prefer to respond &#039;blog to blog&#039; as much as possible.  </p>
<p>I&#039;m not a pessimist. I&#039;m an optimist! I&#039;m looking forward to a world (including Taiwan) where people don&#039;t obsess about their worth in terms of how a pile of bricks is valued; where a family can choose to have an extra room AND have a child; where people don&#039;t need to trade their entire working life to own a small, 2-bedroom apartment in nowhere-ville.  </p>
<p>In fact, dropping prices is great even for owners! It means you will be able to trade up to an even nicer house, if you like, more cheaply. The world would be a much nicer place if house prices were considerably lower. The only people that gain from high house prices are landowners, housebuilders, very old people (who downsize), banks, estate agents and the government (through taxation). Most people don&#039;t fall into one of these categories.  </p>
<p>Besides, housing is not a measure of wealth. A country&#039;s wealth comes from it&#039;s productive ability in terms of tools, art, ideas, &#8230; housing is just a (poorly) assembled collection of mud and dead trees. People would hardly go screaming with joy around the streets if food prices doubled, or if water charges tripled, or electricity bills quadrupled. So why should anyone be cheerful when some other basic, needed commodity goes up? It&#039;s bad news for everyone except those who make that commodity or benefit from its trade!  </p>
<p>For me, the pessimists are those who think that high house prices are good, when really they tie up the capital of a society in a completely unproductive way, and transfer wealth from young to old in an entirely unfair and disproportionate way.  </p>
<p>Anyway, my view on what will happen to housing is not coloured by what I would *like* to happen to housing or what I think is best for society. Rather, it&#039;s just based on what history shows us, and the &#039;laws of finance&#039;, as far as they seem to exist.</p>
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		<title>By: InvestorBlogger</title>
		<link>http://www.obblogatory.com/buzz-taoyuen-nights-brings-daylight-to-taiwans-murky-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-10858</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Mu! I&#039;m really pleased to hear from you. I am adding your blog to my blogroll here and on InvestorBlogger. Your writing really makes me think about things. You are more pessimistic than I am about things... But I&#039;m by nature an optimist! So I cannot help myself! BTW, I couldn&#039;t leave any linkylove on your blog. Did you remove the commenting? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Mu! I&#039;m really pleased to hear from you. I am adding your blog to my blogroll here and on InvestorBlogger. Your writing really makes me think about things. You are more pessimistic than I am about things&#8230; But I&#039;m by nature an optimist! So I cannot help myself! BTW, I couldn&#039;t leave any linkylove on your blog. Did you remove the commenting?</p>
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		<title>By: InvestorBlogger</title>
		<link>http://www.obblogatory.com/buzz-taoyuen-nights-brings-daylight-to-taiwans-murky-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-10857</link>
		<dc:creator>InvestorBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Mu! I&#039;m really pleased to hear from you. I&#039;m adding your blog to my blogroll here and on InvestorBlogger. Your writing really makes me think about things. You&#039;re more pessimistic than I am about things... But I&#039;m by nature an optimist! So I can&#039;t help myself! BTW, I couldn&#039;t leave any linkylove on your blog. Did you remove the commenting?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Mu! I&amp;#039;m really pleased to hear from you. I&amp;#039;m adding your blog to my blogroll here and on InvestorBlogger. Your writing really makes me think about things. You&amp;#039;re more pessimistic than I am about things&#8230; But I&amp;#039;m by nature an optimist! So I can&amp;#039;t help myself! BTW, I couldn&amp;#039;t leave any linkylove on your blog. Did you remove the commenting?</p>
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		<title>By: Taoyuan Nights &#187; Response to Obblagatory&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taoyuan Nights &#187; Response to Obblagatory&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Taiwanese blog called Obblogatory kindly linked to my blog, and raised some views on housing in Taiwan. First of all - thanks for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Taiwanese blog called Obblogatory kindly linked to my blog, and raised some views on housing in Taiwan. First of all &#8211; thanks for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mu-Taoyuan-Nights</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mu-Taoyuan-Nights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 04:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, 
 
This is Mu from Taoyuan Nights. Thanks very much for your kind words and your link to my site. 
 
I&#039;ve written a little reply over on my blog.  
 
All the best, and happy new year! 
 
Mu </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, </p>
<p>This is Mu from Taoyuan Nights. Thanks very much for your kind words and your link to my site. </p>
<p>I&#039;ve written a little reply over on my blog.  </p>
<p>All the best, and happy new year! </p>
<p>Mu</p>
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